That's amazing news. A straightforward replica won't be enough to tempt me away from my MkII so I hope they develop the instrument a bit. They might add things like filter type options and maybe Pro-Soloist style aftertouch on the keys etc. I'm a bit concerned about how they'll replicate the sound with modern components but that's nothing new. One to watch for sure.
Well for those of us with no Ody it's a no-brainer. Just hope it's not a mini version. Although they may do the same as the MS-20 mini and bring out a full-size later. I will hang out for a full-size one.
Already from the picture people are seeing a switch near the filter so looks like at least two filter options. Everything else (keyboard vel/aftertouch/MIDI etc.) will be icing as frankly I don't care.
Personally my wishlist would include: 1. Full-size 2. Some detents in the octave sliders to hit the octave pitches 3. MkIII colour option 4. No MkIII overhanging keyboard though 5. Quality sliders
Everything else is bonus at this stage. Maybe a white face for those that like that sort of thing. I'm happy that it looks like it'll have PPC, although I realise not everyone's favourite it's a bit more fun than a standard knob of the I and II.
It will be SMT but hopefully with Mr Friend on board they'll get past the oscilloscope (are you listening Roland engineers) and actually listen to the damn thing.
Korg have really stolen Roland's PR thunder with this one.
It will have MIDI and USB but memories are unlikely I would have though as this will mean adding a whole layer of digital tracking of the encoders. Not impossible, but it might shove it over their price guideline. Also the fact that they didn't put memories on the MS-20 seems to point in that direction too.
So I guess I got too excited too early on this one. Major let down for me. Just wanted a full-size Odyssey, not a toy. What we got from Korg is not a performance synth but a Module to be used via another keyboard. Pointless.
I was wondering if lebouch was labouch. Looks like Sequential Prophet 6 is this year's winner. Might check it out myself, no way I'm buying the Ody unless I see a really cheap one second hand. Korg are not getting my money this year. Well done chaps, hire the original ARP guy, get the name patented and make it look like a toy.
Sick of the kiddies who know nothing of performance synths advising me to hook it up to a master keyboard. Pricks.
I am SO disappointed. My money was promised to Korg but not any more. I do like the look of the MS20M but I'm thinking £1K is a bit steep..
What really gripped my shit about the Karp was the way they tried to spin that reducing it by 14% is somehow a GOOD THING.
It's just ludicrous. People have tried to defend it on two levels:
1. Reducing the size by 14% makes it somehow easier to fit into your studio... Talk about fixing a problem that doesn't exist! 2. Reducing the size by 14% magically makes it cheaper to produce and thereby doing us a great favour. What a load of crap. If cost was such a concern how about you don't make it available in 3 colours and you don't include a 'free' flight case!!
It looks like a bloody toy. If having reduced-size keys is such a brilliant idea then how come no one else does it?
It's neither one thing or the other. Its not a reproduction and it's not a useful module. And £900 for a Fisher Price is way too much.
I wouldn't have minded a slight reduction in the depth (but keeping sliders the same size) but that's no excuse to go mini. At least Dave Smith has kept the vibe of the Prophet 5 yet totally modernised it. Roland should look to Sequential on how to respect a legacy whilst creating something new (I'm looking at you JP-80).
As to Korg, the MS-20M looks great but the at the price I would rather use the ARP money and sell my Fizmo to get the Prophet 6. Sorry Korg, you made a complete bollocks of the Odyssey. If I'm forced to control the Odyssey from another keyboard I may as well keep using my Novation X-Station and GForce Oddity2, at least I can control all the parameters from in front of me then from a full-size keyboard.
Just watched a video and the PPC are so small - most people don't like them to begin with so I don't see mini ones gaining any new fans. Sheesh.[/edit]
I'm not sure about mini keys.. they're fine on my microKorg but..
I read that the Behringer version will have a built-in (digital) effects section, AND full-size keys (I think). The digital section will be bypassable (if that's a word). Looking interesting. Oh, and 3-way filter options (MK 1,II,II). $500ish
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I spent some time in our local store this afternoon with a Mk3 Karp Odyssey.
I really wanted to love it. Really.
Firstly, and I guess most importantly, the sound is superb. Really, really great. All the usual superlatives apply - the 3 filters are all musical and useful and the Drive circuit is subtle but welcome. Also, just being able to wield sliders that are smooth and operate the full length of their travel is a new one on me! I have owned 4 Odysseys over the years, all Mk2 or Mk3, and I can honestly say that the Karp is the nicest sounding and smoothest operating one I've ever tried. You can really imagine what an Ody must have felt and sounded like straight out of the factory in 1980.
So the bad....
If you have ever owned or spent time with an original Ody I think you'll find the Karp hugely frustrating.
It feels like a fecking toy.
The PPC is too small and the sensitivity is just weird - also the white pads move around as one under the front panel - they _work_, it's just not a good experience, as Apple would say. Stupidly limited midi/USB capability. The octave switch is flimsy. The ring mod is different and wrong. It still makes a nice sound but it doesn't sound like an Ody. And most significantly - those keys.... why would they do that? What a colossally missed opportunity. No matter how much I tried to ignore it I just couldn't get over the size of those stupid keys and the fact they'd shrunk the whole unit down.
It's such a shame. I wanted to like it - hell I wanted to buy one. As above, the sound is amazing and so much is 'right' but having experienced the full fat version I don't think I could live with one. I would rather have a cheaper module and just accept that the Karp is not a players synth. If it was £299 I'd buy one in a heart beat but I'm not paying £749 to be 'kind of' happy with it.
However, if you've never been in the same room as an original I would actually recommend it to anyone, assuming they can live with the Fisher Price keys :-)
Just along from the Odyssey was a Moog Sub 37. Wow - what a different story. Built like a tank in comparison, proper keys, proper midi / usb out capabilities, another amazing sound, sequencer, memories, patch editor, wood panels - what an instrument. For only £350 more than the Karp.
I tried one in a shop a couple of weeks ago and I agree 100% on everything just said. Hell I even though about swapping it for my real one for a few moments because it sounded so good, the sliders were so smooth, etc. But fuck me those stupid keys! Argh! Game over right there.