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Post by vortex on Apr 20, 2010 20:51:15 GMT
No Jesus was signed to yamaha. Mohammad was Moog, Budda Korg, Tanuki was with Kawai
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Post by neo on Apr 21, 2010 6:58:45 GMT
Behold, it is the holy Minimoog of Antioch! Rejoice, rejoice. There is only one true god - Tony Banks played ARPs lol
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Post by vortex on Apr 21, 2010 8:29:13 GMT
I declare Jihad
OOOOh do you think this site has now been flagged by home security or have I been watching too much 24
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Post by Dubsounds on Apr 21, 2010 9:26:09 GMT
If there's a black SUV outside your house with blacked out windows and a couple of MIB type blokes walking up to your front door with black shades and earpieces, THEN you're in trouble
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Post by brassteacher on Apr 21, 2010 16:07:21 GMT
Behold, it is the holy Minimoog of Antioch! Rejoice, rejoice. There is only one true god - Tony Banks played ARPs lol Gee, thanks, now the chanting monks from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is stuck in my head . However, since the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch is one of my favorite (oops, favoUrite) sketches ever, I don't mind so much .
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Post by neo on Apr 21, 2010 19:18:30 GMT
This thread has been such fun i'm starting a new thread. Introducing..."Bet on a wreck". Flagging up novelty coffee table and parts only jobs on ebay. Lets see who gets closest to the final price...Lets keep comedy asking prices to this thread.
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Post by neo on Apr 22, 2010 11:20:07 GMT
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Post by Tokyohunter on Apr 22, 2010 12:23:21 GMT
Anyone aware of a resource that lists a "good guide" to prices for 2nd hand analogue synths? I've got the A to Z of Analogue Sythesizers books but those prices are obviously out of date now.Be handy to know what things really are worth and what is getting unfairly overvalued.I know it's slightly subjective but a guide would be handy.
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Post by ethersine on Apr 22, 2010 13:04:12 GMT
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a "good" guide on the web. Every resource I've found seems to be out of sync with verifiable ebay prices. Vintage Synth Explorer.com offers a price "Range" for each synth spotlighted. Another site I found is Prepal, although their list is extremely limited. I don't know where they get their information as most of the "average prices" seem to be low. www.prepal.com/manufacturers.htmPersonally, I've monitored ebay for several years and keep a log of prices different synths have sold for. Needless to say, this is very time consumming, and since they now keep finished auctions for only 30 days (if that), I've missed a few from time to time.
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Post by neo on Apr 22, 2010 13:31:17 GMT
Both VSE and the A-Z books are now substantially out of date. I also suspect classic synth prices are going through the roof as like any antiques at the moment, they are a sounder long term investment than shares etc. Always a shame when these go to collectors and hoarders rather than players which i suspect is often the case. I've been buying various musical gear for years, and i seem to run into more and more greedy social inadequates like "Comic Shop Guy" off the Simpsons!
Perhaps a project for this site? I wonder if is it possible to monitor BIN and final sale prices off ebay on this site for certain synths (Sean?) - i'm a bit of an ARP watcher, so dibs ARPs, maybe we could divvy up other manufacturers on this basis? This would also set a sensible baseline, I don't think we need to to be told that prices are going up across the board, but at least we'll be able to mock the real idiots and chancers with authority! And in the long term, if we are publishing evidence that some listings just aren't selling, then the message might get round along with a longer term drip down effect in setting a trend for more sensible listings. ;D
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Post by Tokyohunter on Apr 22, 2010 13:55:04 GMT
Yeah, just looked at that site the prices seem a bit lower than of late. Maybe there's room for a review/pricelist sticky thread here or even section?
slightly skewing the topic but, something Shaun pointed out quite a while back was relating to signal to noise ratios of things like Virus T1 compared to certain old analogue synths, something like that should be considered in a review in terms of quality of build/practical usage.
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Post by Tokyohunter on Apr 22, 2010 13:58:12 GMT
Neo, your post just appeared while I was typing, seems we are on the same track.
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Post by neo on Apr 22, 2010 15:22:40 GMT
I do have a slight problem valuing real collectors stuff. We've been taking the piss out of the guy advertising the 2600 Grey Meanie, for all I know it is that rare, although going by his asking price for the Model D, I suspect not.
The other issue is high - low prices. Top wack to me is a near mint to pristine example with a recent and documented service. Low is cosmetically tatty but fully functional (as per the A-Z rating system). Restoration/part farm jobs creeping into low value area should be rightfully mocked. Thats what i've set up "Bet on a Wreck" for!
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Post by Dubsounds on Apr 22, 2010 16:42:38 GMT
As long as someone is willing to step forward to do the spade work, I'm more than happy to run a price guide. The way it will work is by all members contributing to the following thread: Click HereThe more data we can collect, the better the guide will be. Once we have enough data, I will feature the guide on the main site for everyone's benefit. ;D
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Post by neo on Apr 24, 2010 14:19:58 GMT
Note the RA Moog model D is now reduced to BIN £5k, this is an interesting one to watch if the guy is doing an ongoing discount until he gets a sale. I still suspect he's gonna have to go sub £3k.
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Post by MrArkadin on Apr 24, 2010 15:02:02 GMT
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Post by brassteacher on Apr 25, 2010 20:02:57 GMT
That ended at $1,275US? YGBSM! #yikes# I was watching that auction for awhile, and was interested, but I stopped looking when it got past $110US, which was the absolute limit I was going to be willing to pay with it in that condition. Some people must be completely oblivious of the amount of money and time it takes to restore such a thing, even if they are doing the work themselves.
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Post by neo on Apr 25, 2010 21:09:36 GMT
It was that very synth that inspired me to start the bet on a wreck game. I noticed that a much better condition Quadra was seling on US ebay for about $2500 this lunchtime.
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Post by vortex on Apr 26, 2010 5:26:10 GMT
Its actually getting to the stage where you could make a new real analogue for less.
This stuff has a finite life doesn't it. Components no longer AVAILABLE?? Bit like owning a classic car when all the petrol has gone.
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Post by brassteacher on Apr 26, 2010 23:52:06 GMT
Its actually getting to the stage where you could make a new real analogue for less. This stuff has a finite life doesn't it. Components no longer AVAILABLE?? Bit like owning a classic car when all the petrol has gone. Nearly so, you can always convert the car to run off alcohol, assuming you do not drink it all before it gets to the tank , and a good machinist can always make the rare part you need (for enough money). But who among us has a silicon chip fab in their garage? Perhaps it is WE that have gone mental, as well as the analog scene, especially after reading (and contributing) some of the slightly-off-kilter responses on this thread....
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