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Post by secretagent on Apr 23, 2007 17:40:52 GMT
I think i've finally settled on a version that i'm happy with. Or maybe i'm not sure  I'd love to hear you opinions ;D LIQUIDLOVE(final mix?) |
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Post by dlm21uk on Apr 23, 2007 18:48:29 GMT
Sounds pretty friggin good to me  |
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Post by Gavin on Apr 23, 2007 19:53:51 GMT
Much better. Good to hear you being a bit more adventurous with the effects. I like the overdubbed vocals too.
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Post by Dubsounds on Apr 23, 2007 20:24:48 GMT
What a lovely collection of layers and ideas Martin. Still don't like the other singer but that's because she just isn't rock 'n roll (far too trained in a choral way and... well just not raunchy and ballsy like our Lou). That said though, as Gavin said, it's fab hearing all these layers. What you need to work on now is mixing so that they merge harmoniously and sound good together.
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Post by mysterycircuits on Apr 23, 2007 23:48:51 GMT
A+
Loved the guitar
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Post by secretagent on Apr 24, 2007 5:13:18 GMT
Cheers everyone,i know i'll always get an honest critique on here ;D
Any tips on mixing something with so many layers?
I'm still leaning towards boosting frequencies when i should be thinking about cutting them.
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Post by Dubsounds on Apr 24, 2007 5:48:54 GMT
What you add, you should take away.
If you boost the vocal at 5kHz by 3dB, try removing 3dB of 5kHZ from the synth pad underneath the vocal. If you add 60 Hz to a kick, take a little 60 out of the bass and compensate by lifting it at 75... that sort of thing.
Be careful of your Q factor (the notch width). Too narrow and it will sound odd. Too wide and it will add or remove too much like a giant bell curve.
You need to sit there and spend a long time on your EQ. With your parametric, you should boost the gain and sweep the frequency until you hit the spot (all done by ear and instinct) that you want to lift. Then leave that frequency, take the gain back to zero and then SLOWLY turn the gain + or - until it sounds how you want it. Extremes of EQ do more harm than good.
So basically use parametrics to boost niceness AND remove nastiness (booms or harshness).
As far as getting layers to work. You shouldn't really allow all layers to be up at the same time. Write down your arrangement on a sheet of paper and see if you can't make the mix in sections that correspond to the song parts (intro, verse, bridge, chorus, mid 8). Does the guitar need to be upfront during the verses? Isn't it fighting with the vocal? that sort of thing. A song should be like a movie, split into scenes and each scene can have its own lighting and camera angle... but... above all, you should be aware that it is all ONE movie or it all gets confusing to the listener.
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Post by secretagent on Apr 24, 2007 5:54:46 GMT
;D
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Post by vortex on Apr 24, 2007 10:26:20 GMT
Fantastic work Martin et al, but it seems to me the sum of the whole is less than its individual parts. It like all 16 (or whatever) tracks playing at once with static faders. Then again what the fuck do I know. Certainly another major leap to fully professional standard work and a unique sound. I'm begining to wonder what the future might hold in store
PS the maiow at the end scares me cats! and with that I bid you adieu for a while
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Post by secretagent on Apr 24, 2007 15:15:11 GMT
PS the maiow at the end scares me cats!  Kimberley(wife)said she liked it apart from the "bazooka" at 3.05.   |
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