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Post by vortex on Sept 25, 2006 21:30:03 GMT
[quote Numan posts kepttechnical in nature Thats cool;D In my life, 79-81 was all about John Foxx, The Human League, Fad Gadget, OMD, Soft Cell, Bill Nelson and many other early Brit synth pop bands and I was a fully fledged Numanoid to boot.
After that I discovered the early Industrial of Cabaret Voltaire, Throbbing Gristle etc and the streetsounds electro scene, hip-hop, dub reggae, funk, jazz, fusion, techno, and so on and onward...Dude I am so with you right upto the hip hop anyhow From the 80's how about Our Daughters wedding, Devo and The Naughtiest girl was a monitor ( obcsure ++++) Caberet Voltaire. I bought Nag Nag NAg way back when and then sort of lost them. I have just found there fantastic back catalogue so thats where I'll be at for the next few weeks. Also been knocking up some filthy Cab sounds on my Jupe 6
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Post by Dubsounds on Sept 25, 2006 21:39:00 GMT
Start with "Seconds Too Late" and follow that with "Obsession", can't be beat! I also like their proto industrial funk "Sensoria" is an all-time classic... Devo!!! Nuff said ;D Hip Hop, mate, I'm talking "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and all that CLASS stuff, not the piss poor crap they make today! Lawnchairs are everywhere and my mind describes them to me
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Post by rpb1966 on Sept 25, 2006 21:43:30 GMT
"Lawnchairs are everywhere and my mind describes them to me" .......was n`t that Our Daughters Wedding ?.
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Post by spoonz on Sept 25, 2006 21:55:41 GMT
Steve i miss the point all the time. You have to spell it out sometimes but Shaun said 100% what i was trying to get across
I guess the thing is a Polymoog site generally attracts it's fair share of Numan fans. comes with the territory. I don't want a Numan free site just a balanced site.
Lately i'm digging Dolby. He's done some clever shit. Windpower -Awesome.
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Post by rpb1966 on Sept 25, 2006 22:10:32 GMT
Steve thats not entirely true mate, what I was trying to show is that it is possible to re-create sounds on other gear, other than the actual gear being used for the original recording (if you know what I mean). I have done other stuff besides Numan`s. There are more interesting subjects we can talk about besides Numan, I`m not saying Numans boring, actually I should have worded that bit differently thats all. ;D
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Post by Dubsounds on Sept 25, 2006 22:13:32 GMT
Wow! You're all playing so nicely too ;D Bit of a breath of fresh air you lot. Imagine if this was AFENet
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Post by MrArkadin on Sept 25, 2006 22:40:09 GMT
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Post by rpb1966 on Sept 26, 2006 0:01:19 GMT
Mine as follows.................................. Gary Numan Kraftwerk OMD The Eurythmics Michael Jean Jarre (Dont ask Please!!!!) Ultravox The Human League John Foxx Depeche Mode Howard Jones Heaven 17 Soft Cell Vangellis Japan Thomas Dolby Ian Dury and the Blockheads The Alex Harvey Band Genesis Phil Collind Peter Gabriel Sophie Ellis Bextor <----- who added this !!!!! Goldfrapp Sparks
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Post by vortex on Sept 26, 2006 1:44:28 GMT
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Post by Minimoog on Sept 26, 2006 4:53:09 GMT
There are more interesting subjects we can talk about besides Numan, I`m not saying Numans boring, actually I should have worded that bit differently thats all. ;D 'There are other interesting subjects we can talk about besides Numan...' As to the board's popularity and diversity, it has to be remembered that it's existing in a crowded market. If you want to talk about old synths and the music made on them there are many alternatives, some of which are far longer established than Dubsounds. The Vintage Synth Explorer forums are extremely popular for instance, and the Gas Station at Sonic State had its moments too. Throw in the mailing lists like AH and you've got a lot of competition. Saying that, these all have their own characters too. VSE seems big and friendly, AH is rather techie with very strict moderation to keep things on-topic, Gas Station is a bit more combative with some personalities jostling for position, etc etc. Amongst this lot Dubs has a character of its own with its fireside manner which reminds me of a favourite local bar or gentlemen's club. Unfortunately this latter aspect might possibly work against it slightly as like a local pub it might seem a bit cliquey from the outside to some. I mean, how many forums do you know where everyone is on first name terms? Saying that it's not as though the piano stops playing and everyone swivels to stare at newcomers - everyone new is warmly welcomed, so it's up to them whether or not to stay. Can't do more than that. There is a strong Numan influence here too obviously - inevitable since the bulk of the original members fled here from AFE (can't imagine why eh?), and anyone else will be here cos of the Polymoog and who's the main artist who used that...? Trying to stifle or restrict discussion of him (e.g. to technical aspects only) seems to me to be an ungainly and potentially counter-productive way to do things. For example, whilst I understood the good intention behind it I felt decidely uncomfortable about Shaun suggesting Mike go elsewhere to ask about the Noise Noise session. Sure there may be 'better' forums to ask about such things and by all means tell folks about them, but hell if you can contribute to a discussion, do so as long as it's vaguely about gear and who used it. Let folks decide for themselves whether to ask the question here or at Artist X's fansites. The way to widen the site's appeal is to introduce new discussions, not restrict the prevailing ones. Just my opinion as someone who still enjoys the Numan talk on here I should qualify the above by saying I wouldn't want to see the gear-o-centric nature of the site diluted by irrelevant off-topic crap about Artist X (or anything else for that matter). I suppose another issue might be the fact that it's a small site still with a rather low membership, of which only a few contribute. Maybe this makes it look like the restaurant you walk past because it looks nearly empty, I dunno. Low member activity is not a propblem unique to Dubsounds though. VSE have nearly 4500 registered members, but the maximum online at one time was just 75 or 1.6%. The hugely popular Mini2.com (39,000 members) has had a maximum of 4.5% of members online at once. I just visited there for the first time in nearly a year, and it's the same few dozen people posting as back then. Dubsound's highest active member rate is 11% and that was when we had most of our current membership. I think that's encouraging Right I'm knackered now so I'll just say we should take up Shaun's gauntlet and sample and scan anything interesting, keep the tunes coming (yes that means I need to get my arse in gear), and Shaun I wonder if there's anything that can be done to increase the site's hitrate with the search engines and suchlike? Everyone's right by the way, this is the best forum going ;D *group hug* (in a manly way)
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Post by MrArkadin on Sept 26, 2006 5:27:23 GMT
Good points Minimoog.
...er, quite. i was trying to limit myself to people who have been some sort of synth pioneer, extensive user/player, studio innovator, sampler artist etc. Dunno, maybe she has a big Polymoog collection or summat.
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Post by secretagent on Sept 26, 2006 6:16:40 GMT
What a great post jordan Posted at 5.53am!! What time did you start it!!!!!!
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Post by Minimoog on Sept 26, 2006 9:11:19 GMT
Kept awake most of the night by a stoopid throat infection - clearly a precursor to a nasty bout of Man Flu
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Post by rpb1966 on Sept 26, 2006 13:10:00 GMT
Right!!!!! who added Sophie Ellis Bextor to my list then!!!!!, come on own up Jordan, top post mate, you understood was I was getting at
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Post by spoonz on Sept 26, 2006 17:04:12 GMT
So i guess we are sort of saying discuss anything including Numan till our hearts content and run the risk of being a niche site or keep a balance and try and appeal to a wider audience.
To be honest i don't mind either way personally but i don't know if shaun has made public some of his reasons for starting the site or if they are still valid. If they are you would understand why the attempt to attract a diverse audience.
I am of the belief that not offering samples some of which are particularly hard gained ones to Joe public without any effort on their part is the way to go.
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Post by Minimoog on Sept 26, 2006 18:11:55 GMT
So i guess we are sort of saying discuss anything including Numan till our hearts content and run the risk of being a niche site or keep a balance and try and appeal to a wider audience. Not sure how you get discussing anything = becoming a niche site Do you really think it's a surfeit of Numan threads which limits the site's appeal? I'm not so sure. I think it's more to do with being unable to compete with the big hitters like VSE, which has the huge advantage of being bolted onto a site which will be in the top few hits of a search for any old analogue synth. Ditto Sonic State. Would quite understand if the samples availbility was limited in some way. We always said Shaun was spoiling us
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Post by dlm21uk on Sept 27, 2006 21:12:01 GMT
I agree with this. and this . . .
It seems perfectly reasonable that at the very least, particular samples are available to contributing members only (after all, an important strength of this community is - you give a little - you receive a great deal)
It is also perfectly reasonable for Shaun to feel justified in making some of the rarest or most time consuming samples available for a fee (ebay etc). After all the effort and hours put into these high quality samples I'm sure all of us would be willing to part with a little cash for the pleasure of using them.
I have several sample CD's I have bought over the years, and without wanting to put down any of the creators of those samples, I have to say that Shaun samples are of the highest caliber. {Clever git !}
;D
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Post by Gavin on Sept 27, 2006 22:37:52 GMT
I find all the "we're a Numan clique" stuff a bit off putting. I get enough of that at that other site.
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Post by heath on Sept 27, 2006 23:09:05 GMT
I kind of like how this is kind of a tight knit little community.
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Post by spoonz on Sept 27, 2006 23:56:20 GMT
Discuss Anything= We usually end up on Numan in some form just to clarify my point Jordan. Were spending 3 pages of a 4 page thread talking about Numan when the thread started in non related way as an example.
I can't stress enough i'm not anti Numan I just don't feel the need to use this site for the subject unless it's synth or gear related when i have other sites dedicated to it. it's just my opinion.
Why don't we change the subject and leave it up to individuals as to whether they do or don't.
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