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Numan
Nov 28, 2008 21:37:59 GMT
Post by vortex on Nov 28, 2008 21:37:59 GMT
Most will know that for some reason, undoubtledly totally unrelated to his career, Numan is playing some dates in Australia. Although I live on the better and more civilised of the southern Islands (NZ) its not too much hassle to cross the Tasmin and go to the gig in Sydney. The problem is I find myself strangely unenthusiastic. Now if it were the telekon or replicas gig I would probably swim the Tasmin to get there. My guess is it will be a limited light show and 80% Jagged.
What do you reckon? Would you go?
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Numan
Nov 28, 2008 22:32:43 GMT
Post by Dubsounds on Nov 28, 2008 22:32:43 GMT
You already answered your own question I think Joe by asking us lot.
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Numan
Dec 1, 2008 15:39:35 GMT
Post by faylon on Dec 1, 2008 15:39:35 GMT
Yes, you could definitely be disappointed as you will here very little 'classic' Numan to be perfectly honest. Which is a shame...
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Numan
Dec 2, 2008 10:59:41 GMT
Post by Tokyohunter on Dec 2, 2008 10:59:41 GMT
There's only one Numan concert left for me to go to, and that's the Pleasure Principle gig next year.
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Numan
Dec 21, 2008 5:02:48 GMT
Post by voxnumana on Dec 21, 2008 5:02:48 GMT
Yup can't wait for the Pleasure Principle tour next year, as the Pleasure Principle is my favourite Numan album. Thing is, I can't help thinking that Numan will probably use some shit sound to substitute the Polymoog's vox humana preset. So, the gigs could end up ruined by a crappy digital synth soundalike.
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Numan
Dec 21, 2008 16:04:18 GMT
Post by MrArkadin on Dec 21, 2008 16:04:18 GMT
Well i happen to know that Gaz's keyboard player got some plugins from GMedia (Oddity, impOSCar and VSM i believe). Now he hasn't managed to convince Gary yet - apparently every time he tried to substitute a sound Gary would look over and give him 'the stare' . Anyways got me thinking that with GMedia's upcoming expansion pack for VSM, which will include Vox Humana, that he may convince Gary to use it yet - if only for TPP tour. Also to vortex: OK maybe his new stuff is not your cup of tea, but are you likely to ever see him again. i would go - i mean if you live at the arse end of the world you've got to take what you can get. In London we're a bit spoiled.
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Numan
Dec 22, 2008 4:15:35 GMT
Post by vortex on Dec 22, 2008 4:15:35 GMT
Also to vortex: OK maybe his new stuff is not your cup of tea, but are you likely to ever see him again. i would go - i mean if you live at the arse end of the world you've got to take what you can get. In London we're a bit spoiled. To be honest I'm not sure why the latest stuff fails to thrill me. I am an ardent NIN fan. I lack the muso vocabulary to really be able to articulate why Numans industrial stuff fails to tick my boxes. Having said that I still own it (paid for!) and give it the occasional listen. In a perfect world if I could rewind the clocks I would silence the naysayers at the time of the 25th aniversary concerts. I thought the remixes he did for those gigs and the 2 new songs were absolutely the way forward. Sadly the majority, or the vocal minority, loathed the gigs and still repeatedly post saying as much. No idea if Numan listened to them but that was quickly that for the "Hybrid" period. I haven't actually heard "Jagged Edge" . Its the first Numan album I haven't bought. Perhaps I should try it as it probably most closely represents what the Aussies will get to hear. I read a few AFEnetters are going to Sydney are they safe? PS Going to see David Byrne in February
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Numan
Dec 22, 2008 10:04:19 GMT
Post by MrArkadin on Dec 22, 2008 10:04:19 GMT
i thought the 25th concerts were OK too. i never even go on AFENEt anymore - it's full of such negative fucktards that i really haven't got time for it - i assume the ones that are going to Oz aren't going just so they can say how shit it was (although i wouldn't put it past some of them to waste money just so they could slag the Gaz).
i mean that KinC or whatever he's called literally posts thousands of comments and 99% are negative. If you don't like someone's music past 1981 then leave it! Don't waste your life on forums dedicated to someone you hate (and then poisoning those very forums for other users).
Still, given where you are unless you come to the UK occasionally this will be your only chance to catch him.
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Numan
Dec 25, 2008 0:57:16 GMT
Post by mysterycircuits on Dec 25, 2008 0:57:16 GMT
When's the PP tour?
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Numan
Jan 6, 2009 15:00:27 GMT
Post by nervejam on Jan 6, 2009 15:00:27 GMT
I've not been back to AFENET for years now.
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Numan
Feb 8, 2009 8:49:18 GMT
Post by magiccrumb on Feb 8, 2009 8:49:18 GMT
I moved to Australia when I was a youth. I had been around in London long enough to see Numan at Hammersmith Odeon on the original Telekon "Teletour," and also the legendary "farewell" Wembley concerts. Those were fantastic events, let me tell you. Thought about them almost every day for all those years.
23 years later, I was still a Numanoid. Only now I was older and wiser and had special powers that enabled me to charm women into sleeping with me. Those were the only differences. In 2004, Numan was playing in Hammersmith and this was my opportunity to see Numan again after all those years. I got dressed up like the old days and went along. I was so excited.
I can honestly tell you that it was horrific. All the old Numanoids who once dressed in their finest were gone. They had mutated into fat and smelly old men. There was a smell in the air like a stinky unclean gym. It was like being at a football match. Everyone was chanting and punching the air in time to their chanting. I know growing old is part of life, but somehow I was dreaming that the old Numanoids would still be there but just look more like Bryan Ferry or Pierce Brosnan when he was Bond. There were about 10 women in the whole place. A far cry from 1981.
And as for Numan's performance....what a pile of shit. He pranced around in a black T-Shirt like he was in a heavy metal band. Come to think of it, the music DID sound like heavy metal. My God, it was shit. The mix was low and crap. The chanting football hooligan crowd were louder than the music. Can you believe that even in a couple of the songs, the synth melodies & lead lines were even wrong?
How I wish I hadn't gone and just kept my memories of 1981 safe in my heart.
I saw The Human League, Kraftwerk and John Foxx some time after that and was so happy to see they all were not embarrassed to be themselves and still kept their dignity and classic styles. None were trying to be Bon Jovi.
How can something so original and perfect become so shit? I’m pretty sure that I won’t be going to any Numan concerts again. Keep Numan’s music alive in your heart, because it’s gone now. It’s never coming back.
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Numan
Feb 8, 2009 17:52:08 GMT
Post by shadowman on Feb 8, 2009 17:52:08 GMT
Sh!t !
:sobs:
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Numan
Feb 9, 2009 6:15:11 GMT
Post by vortex on Feb 9, 2009 6:15:11 GMT
I can honestly tell you that it was horrific. All the old Numanoids who once dressed in their finest were gone. They had mutated into fat and smelly old men. There was a smell in the air like a stinky unclean gym. It was like being at a football match. Everyone was chanting and punching the air in time to their chanting. I know growing old is part of life, but somehow I was dreaming that the old Numanoids would still be there but just look more like Bryan Ferry or Pierce Brosnan when he was Bond. There were about 10 women in the whole place. A far cry from 1981. Time is a cruel mistress to be sure. I though the same at the first gig I took me missus to (Bristol I think). Then I took a long hard look in the mirror....fuck. Anyhoo the same missus is due to drop our first AND ONLY!!! sprog at the end of March so it might be a bit rude to be out of the country so close. Now if it were the PP tour........
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Numan
Feb 9, 2009 14:28:55 GMT
Post by MrArkadin on Feb 9, 2009 14:28:55 GMT
Poor old Gary - if he stays as he was he gets called nostalgic and backward-looking, if he does something new it's never as good as the old stuff.
Personally i don't want to live in the rose-tinted past. If he was doing what he did in 1979 i would say he was a failure. You may not like what he's doing now but at least it's not some Hear and Now tour - sorry, Human League keep their dignity?
Things like TPP tour are great for those of us who missed it first time round, but that's it. If that's what he was doing as a tour every year it would be sad.
Not sure which gig magiccrumb was at but in recent years:
1. The music has been very loud. Too loud in fact (i wear earplugs) 2. There are plenty of girls there. Maybe not as many as blokes, but no gig i go to has that many girls - unless you go to Madonna or boy band gigs. Seriously, many women just don't go to heavier or serious music gigs 3. "Fat smelly old men" - well are you as fit as you were in your twenties?
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 0:05:22 GMT
Post by magiccrumb on Feb 10, 2009 0:05:22 GMT
Yes, fair call about the Human League. I saw them before they did Here and Now. Here and Now was truly appalling. And unforgivable. Prior to Here and Now, they played the classic old stuff and some new things too and it all fitted perfectly. They even threw in some early left wing classics like "Empire State Human." Oakey was bald but looked cool. Damn cool in fact. The blonde one looked older but fantastic. The dark haired one, Oakey's wife had let herself go a bit but the show was still fantastic. I'm not saying Numan should do Replicas for the rest of his life. Just like Kraftwerk didn't stop at Man Machine. They do new stuff. But, you can see a straight line from one thing to the other with them and with the other bands I mention. I saw Gang Of Four 3 years ago. They weren't living in the past but they were cool as hell. Numan went from "Telekon" to "Dance." Two very different albums and visual styles but still very acceptable. But how did he go from all that to "Jagged?" Numan lost the plot in my opinion. And probably became smelly like many of the patrons at his concert that I went to in 2004 (present company excluded). Congrats on the bub on the way Vortex. You're right, I don't think it would go down too well with the missus if you went galavanting around the world at that time. You're right, MrArkadin, I'm not as fit as I once was. I am damn sexy though. Handsome, sexy and charming.
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 9:35:22 GMT
Post by MrArkadin on Feb 10, 2009 9:35:22 GMT
You're right, MrArkadin, I'm not as fit as I once was. I am damn sexy though. Handsome, sexy and charming. Are you the one on the left or right of your avatar?
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 17:28:57 GMT
Post by Dubsounds on Feb 10, 2009 17:28:57 GMT
I think he's the one on the right
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 19:24:56 GMT
Post by magiccrumb on Feb 10, 2009 19:24:56 GMT
No. I was present when the photo was taken but I'm not in the picture. I was working as the fluffer.
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 19:56:52 GMT
Post by vortex on Feb 10, 2009 19:56:52 GMT
so thats not hair gel?
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Numan
Feb 10, 2009 20:23:28 GMT
Post by MrArkadin on Feb 10, 2009 20:23:28 GMT
That explains a lot of '80s hairstyles. Probably had to have an army of fluffers for A Flock of Seagulls
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