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Post by roper on Jul 1, 2006 14:00:00 GMT
taken from TPP sessions...... name them syths  |
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 1, 2006 15:02:11 GMT
Whiteface Mk I ARP Odyssey on top of a Polymoog 280a (I know from a previous pic from a different angle) with a Minimoog in the background ;D
Now to better this, who can tell me what patch Numan has set up on the Oddy?
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Post by rpb1966 on Jul 1, 2006 16:32:17 GMT
God Knows?.  |
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Post by TheProdigy on Jul 1, 2006 20:15:23 GMT
...or, what colour are his pants?
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Post by Minimoog on Jul 1, 2006 20:58:18 GMT
Now to better this, who can tell me what patch Numan has set up on the Oddy? It's a bog-standard bass patch - two saws, no mod at all, zero attack and decay, full sus. Tiny bit of rez in the filter. Filter s/h slider is up but there's nothing in the s/h source section so that won't do anything. See here for reference  |
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 1, 2006 21:36:14 GMT
Yeah but going out on a limb... just suppose for a minute that that "bog-standard bass patch" is THE bass patch prior to processing?
Can one of you Oddy owners replicate the settings in the photo and let us have a sound clip?
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Post by Minimoog on Jul 1, 2006 22:12:20 GMT
Martin's yer man. He's the one with the 2800 (i.e 'whiteface', even though his isn't. If you see what I mean  ). |
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Post by secretagent on Jul 2, 2006 5:51:36 GMT
For some reason i can't see the photo's???
The same thing applies to all the songs steve posts on his own site(touring principle).
I can never open them??
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Post by TheProdigy on Jul 2, 2006 7:24:24 GMT
Yeah but going out on a limb... just suppose for a minute that that "bog-standard bass patch" is THE bass patch prior to processing? Can one of you Oddy owners replicate the settings in the photo and let us have a sound clip? Numan points the finger at the Mini Moog for the bass synth in this Sound on Sound interview in 1996. "The Polymoog had one good preset in it called 'Vox Humana', which is the high string sound heard on 'Cars', and with the Minimoog I was just trying to make it sound as powerful as two chugging guitars, since I wrote most of the early stuff on the guitar anyway"I think I got really close with MiniMoog (VST) and guitar flanger on my later stuff. I would love to hear a real Mini Moog through a guitar flanger for comparison |
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 2, 2006 11:03:15 GMT
Allright Mark, keep yer hair on!  YES, we have all more or less come to the conclusion it was a Mini. There's been enough threadage on this subject here in the past but... There was always that small percentage of doubt and seeing as though we have a picture of the Odyssey playing a "bass patch" during the PP recording session, I would like to hear someone re-create it. |
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Post by secretagent on Jul 2, 2006 12:50:46 GMT
It is very close(a bit "flutey"like the live versions)i've not got alot of time today but i'll do a bit of fine tuning tomorrow then post a clip or 2  |
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Post by secretagent on Jul 3, 2006 13:41:18 GMT
THIS is what the settings produced. It's still a bit away but with some flanging etc.?
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Post by secretagent on Jul 3, 2006 14:31:43 GMT
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 3, 2006 17:13:16 GMT
Well it's safe to say it's nothing like it Martin. Thanks though mate. How many other forums do you know of where someone can post a picture of Numan playing a synth and a few hours later we can HEAR what it sounded like... all from a photo?  ;D |
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Post by labouch on Jul 3, 2006 17:53:05 GMT
THIS is what the settings produced. It's still a bit away but with some flanging etc.? Is that with both oscs on saw wave? Sound like one at least is on square - sounds a bit hollow? |
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Post by secretagent on Jul 3, 2006 18:45:52 GMT
Is that with both oscs on saw wave? Sound like one at least is on square - sounds a bit hollow? I'm not sure if they were both on saw so THEY ARE NOWMight not be "the"sound but it's a good one all the same(apart from the bloody noise from the flanger  ) |
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 3, 2006 19:41:34 GMT
OK Martin, two things... you're playing it an octave too low and your oscilators aren't in tune with each other Can we go again? 1... 2... 3... 4.... |
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Post by secretagent on Jul 3, 2006 20:52:34 GMT
The oscilators don't look in tune in the pic? HERE it is again played on the lowest octave then an octave above. I'm guessing they were gonna use the odyssey patch then someone came up with a better one on the minimoog |
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Post by Dubsounds on Jul 3, 2006 21:04:29 GMT
I think your guess isn't far off Martin  BTW, this time you played it in the right octave to start and then went up an octave too high... You crazy |
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Post by Minimoog on Jul 3, 2006 21:31:44 GMT
Hee hee I read this thread about 6 o' clock and just logged back in to find you'd all had the same conversation as I'd had with myself meantime. Square waves, octave interval, flanger noise, not-right-but-sounds-canny-anyway, etc... So here's a quick clip of my take on the patch, inc flanger. I'm a bit pissed so the timing is as ropey as ever, in fact I couldn't even manage a take of Metal at all #boozer01# Not Numan but nice |
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