|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 15:43:59 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by spoonz on May 17, 2006 16:02:43 GMT
Not bad Mark The Mini clone synth is as close as i've ever got anyway. The Polymoog sound really sucks though i'm afraid but it's not easy to get close to that without Nostalgia or the real thing.
by the way Airlane is still gonna happen. Just the Bass synth to go. Lacking a bit of time at the mo. Not as straightforward as it seemed as the tempo of your track didn't seem quite right. when i compared to a Live version by Numan it was 6 bpm faster than yours.
|
|
|
|
Post by secretagent on May 17, 2006 16:03:03 GMT
The bass sound is fairly good as is the track but what i find with covering numan songs is;cos they are fairly simple musically you need to replicate the original sounds almost exactly because that is what created such an impact in the first place or,which i prefer,you take it somewhere completely different.
Keep em coming ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by Minimoog on May 17, 2006 16:18:14 GMT
What do you think of the bass synth? That's a bit good is that Mark! Just about as close as I've heard - good work fella ;D I'd risk a tad more flanging myself just to see if it helped. What is this? I think Col's being harsh about the Poly sound. It's pretty good to me. |
|
|
|
Post by spoonz on May 17, 2006 16:25:51 GMT
Me Harsh, well maybe.
I agree with Martin though that the sound has to be as good or a very good alternative otherwise the song doesn't have that bite anymore and the Polymoog sound just doesn't grab me at all.
It not a reflection on Mark because we all know how difficult it is to copy.
|
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 16:40:10 GMT
by the way Airlane is still gonna happen. Just the Bass synth to go. Lacking a bit of time at the mo. Not as straightforward as it seemed as the tempo of your track didn't seem quite right. when i compared to a Live version by Numan it was 6 bpm faster than yours. Oh, great - thanx. Bit odd about tempo. I seem to recall playing over the top of the album version to try and get it matched but then I am a complete NEWB! |
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 16:49:35 GMT
It's: -Cubase -SonikSynth2 Bass guitar -Battery2 -Nostalgia (I must have f*cked up because I've had a better Polymoog from it on my Airlane www.reemsoft.co.uk/markreeman/Airlane.mp3 and Observer www.reemsoft.co.uk/markreeman/Observer.mp3 tracks) ...and for the bass synth - Absynth Dryland patch slightly adjusted but more importantly I put it through Nomad Guitar Legends with phaser +some effects, compressing, maximising etc. |
|
|
|
Post by Dubsounds on May 17, 2006 17:47:58 GMT
I used the Nomad on one of my experiments too but chose a flanger because that's what I hear in the original. A phaser lacks the metallic edge.
It is a bloody good stab at "the grail" perhaps a bit too much amp sim (giving it a bit of a honky midrange) but easily corrected with post EQ.
Your Airlane Vox Humana is much better you're right and to a casual ear would easily pass. It's a bit difficult not to be too be a perfectionist when you have a real Polymoog sat next to you all day long and I apreciate the effort you put into getting that sound. Fuck.. I tried everything for the best part of 20 odd years before I gave in and bought me a real Poly. Now I can sit back and grin like a smug bastard but I haven't forgotten my old patches (some of which were pretty close to my ears at the time).
Cool ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 18:16:28 GMT
Bugger, I just realised the tempo is too fast  |
|
|
|
Post by secretagent on May 17, 2006 19:01:25 GMT
My recommendation for anyone wanting the numan vox humana sound without the cost and space consumation of a real polymoog would be to try and find a vintage mxr phase 100. I,ve just been messing with nostalgia through mine and it can create some fabulous eerie sounds  (polymoog strings probably sounds better than vox humana) ;D |
|
|
|
Post by labouch on May 17, 2006 20:49:54 GMT
What do you think of the bass synth? I think that bass sound is bloody good - deffo the closest I've heard in (too) many years of trying to nail it. The only thing not right , as discussed, is the flanging. Are you able to disect the sound to tell me how it's achieved? How many osc, what footage, waveform, etc? |
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 21:50:40 GMT
What do you think of the bass synth? I think that bass sound is bloody good - deffo the closest I've heard in (too) many years of trying to nail it. The only thing not right , as discussed, is the flanging. Are you able to disect the sound to tell me how it's achieved? How many osc, what footage, waveform, etc? I think so but it'll have to wait till the weekend as I'm just adding the finishing touches to a *Viola* and claps!! come back Billy, all is forgiven LOL |
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 17, 2006 22:07:48 GMT
OK, I: -Fiddled with Nostalgia -Changed to Amplitube + Flanger -Added viola  -Added claps -Corrected tempo It's here again: www.reemsoft.co.uk/markreeman/M.E..mp3Would welcome further comments. ....and thanks for comments so far guys. |
|
|
|
Post by Dubsounds on May 17, 2006 22:09:36 GMT
Told ya it was a flange  |
|
|
|
Post by dlm21uk on May 17, 2006 22:35:43 GMT
Now that's better ! Well done there matie ;D Someone get that man a Polymoog !  |
|
|
|
Post by spoonz on May 17, 2006 23:33:57 GMT
by the way Airlane is still gonna happen. Just the Bass synth to go. Lacking a bit of time at the mo. Not as straightforward as it seemed as the tempo of your track didn't seem quite right. when i compared to a Live version by Numan it was 6 bpm faster than yours. Oh, great - thanx. Bit odd about tempo. I seem to recall playing over the top of the album version to try and get it matched but then I am a complete NEWB! For some reason the album version is129bpm but "live" it's 134. You are close to the album but i think the live version sounds better with a slightly faster tempo. Just me being picky. That Mini sound is now very very close. Just needs a bit more ooomph from something. |
|
|
|
Post by Dubsounds on May 18, 2006 5:19:12 GMT
That "some reason" my friend used to be something they called "live music". No click track, no drummer with headphones, no DAT backing, no miming... just Cedric Sharpley banging his sticks together - 1, 2, 3 and... It would be as fast as he felt it should be on any given night. The band would take his lead and he would then respond to the band. They would even speed up a bit in the exciting bits It was all back a long, long time ago when people physically hit things with lumps of wood... very primal, ug, ug!! |
|
|
|
Post by secretagent on May 18, 2006 5:43:40 GMT
Much more realistic polymoog and a step forward overall. #thumbsup# But the left channel was distorted in my headphones  |
|
|
|
Post by Minimoog on May 18, 2006 7:21:34 GMT
Yep much better. ;D Needs the high VH over the coda now.
|
|
|
|
Post by TheProdigy on May 18, 2006 8:03:42 GMT
Thanks Guys. Minimoog: What is Coda? spoonz: Mini? ...sorry for being too newb. |
|
